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Plan for 'new village' near Wrexham given the go-ahead



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Published Date: 03 November 2008
CONTROVERSIAL plans to build more than 200 homes on National Trust land on the outskirts of Wrexham have been given the go-ahead, following a crucial vote.
But furious campaigners against the scheme on the Erddig Estate have today claimed a moral victory despite the plans being passed over the weekend.

A motion to halt the building of 223 new homes in Rhostyllen was voted for by National Trust members 14,318 to 14,139 at the organisation's AGM, in Liverpool, on Saturday.

But the Trust's chairman used a discretionary block vote of 8,019 to push the proposals through.

A lobby was held outside the trust's annual general meeting.

Marc Jones, a local Plaid Cymru councillor who proposed the move, said the planned housing estate on green fields would increase the village's population by a third and has been described as totally unsustainable by local residents.

He said: "The National Trust was formed to protect and conserve, not bulldoze local communities. It is in danger of being seen as an arrogant, remote and bullying organisation.

"The local community has voted decisively against the development in a local referendum. The Trust is now seen as little more than an arrogant lord of the manor by local people, and deservedly so."

The motion was seconded by Arfon Jones, who told the 600-strong audience: "I didn't join the National Trust to become a property developer."

He added: "I joined the National Trust many years ago because I admired their aim of protecting our heritage and conserving our 'green and pleasant land' for use by future generations."

Cllr Carrie Harper, a long standing campaigner against the scheme said: "We were fully prepared for the Trust chairman using this block vote so this is just another step in our campaign.

"The vote just goes to show how much support we had from the National Trust members and we are now planning to call an extraordinary general meeting in the new year."

Iwan Huws, the National Trust's director for Wales said: "The proposed development is needed to provide for the long term future of the hall at Erddig and its surrounding parkland.

"We have worked with the local community and its elected officials to ensure that the proposal meets the needs of the local area, both in terms of the type of housing and the facilities that are needed.

"The proposals are going through the democratic planning process, with the council's planning committee due to consider the proposals for the second time in the near future.

"Whilst the proposals have received strong support from parts of the local community, including the local Community Council, there have also been strong objections from others.

"We appreciate that development of this nature will rarely be universally welcomed, and fully respect the right of people to express their views in this way.

"We are pleased that our members have had the opportunity to consider and debate the proposals in this way."

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Truth hurts!,

Reality 03/11/2008 12:34:40
Why the big furore by 3 Plaid Cymru Councillors and nothing from the local member?
Everyone seemed to welcome the creation of construction jobs in Eagle's Meadow. Now those jobs are no more, isn't this a way of providing long term local employment?
Those concerned Councillors all have their 'extra' incomes so why would they care about an unemployed bricklayer or a plasterer!
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Yachydda,

Wrexham 03/11/2008 13:51:29
Well it shows just how much the national trust care about green belt land, I hope they get hit by a windfall tax.
If Wrexham council go ahead with this plan, local herritage will be lost despite the council's Bob Dewey saying Rhostyllen has no welsh herritage.
Personaly I find his comment as discriminative towards the people of rhostyllen and the Welsh in general.
He should be made to step down, the man obviously does not know what he is talking about,and I belive Wrexham council is as guilty as the national trust in this sordid affair,which saw legal election posters ripped down,and threats of legal action by the council leader against those opposing the plans, Rhostyllen comunity council reciving a resounding vote of NO confidence,and the result of a referendum in the village going against the development.
My family were going to join the national trust, but with this happening, why should I waste my money on a trust I cannot trust?
And now with the recession starting to bite, how do they think they will be able to sell the properties?
it now cost more to biuld a house than they can sell it for...or is the council going to waste our money on subsidies?
There is also a rumour that more national trust land on the Erddig estate is being considered for sale to housing developers...with the backing of Wrexham council....they are hell bent on turning Wrexham into an annexe of Cheshire, I hope appeals are being launched against the dessision by the national trust, as they will if Wrexham council pass the plan.
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Seren123,

Wrecsam 03/11/2008 14:57:15
So much for a democratic process! National trust members voted for the development to be scrapped but the chairman used 8,000 proxy block votes to swing the result. Just an example of how unethical and undemocratic the trust have become.
You can watch the AGM online actually, the chairman of the community council in Rhostyllen (yes thats right, the one who had the vote of no confidence as someone else stated), said that everyone who is against the development is just anti English! Just shows the level of arrogance, I can see why people wanted them out.

The National Trust have made a really bad move here, the press all over the UK are going for it with the 'undemocratic block vote' issue, it was in the Observer the other day and on radio 4 today. They are splitting their own arganisation in two, serves them right.

Not on Erddig!
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Yachydda,

Wrexham 03/11/2008 15:37:02
If Wrexham council pass this planning application, (already seen as passed)then the whole council should be desolved, and fresh elections sat.
the people of Wrexham should have more say, Bob Dewey has made his view clear, Wrexham council should replace him and he should resign for his racist comments against the people of Rhostyllen and Wales.
The People no longer have any confidence in Wrexham council.
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lumberjill,

wrexham 03/11/2008 15:39:23
A year is a long time, apparently long enough for the National Trust to change its views on development on green belt land. Following are extracts from Sir William Proby's Chairman's Speech at last years AGM.

"We, better than most, know the vital public benefit that our green spaces deliver – beauty, fresh air, oxygen for the soul – and now,with climate change, the growing understanding of the countryside’s vital role to our very survival – and in providing vital space for flood water storage."
"Yet what is happening to the countryside? Inch by inch, year by year its redeeming, restorative qualities are being eroded. Bypasses spawn developments filling in the ground between road
and town; motorways suck vast shed-filled industrial estates in their wake."
"The statistics are terrifying. 40% of our landscapes are changing for the worse. It is estimated over 10,000 acres of Green Belt is at risk from development in regional plans. Indeed, since 1995 more than 3 square miles of Green Belt has been lost to
development each year."
"To protect the Green Belt and open space requires
more than a conventional defence – we need to develop new arguments that define the benefits that Green Belt land and open space bring to us all."



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Mad-dad,

Wrexham 03/11/2008 16:31:58
Discracefull!!!It seems to me we have more than our fair share of idiots in control of our future and our childrens future!!!Eagles Meadow Development built on Land STOLEN off the people of Wrexham, and now the National Trust and Wrexham Planning Dept taking no notice of what the people of the immediate surrounding area's have to say !!!It's Time for complete Reform in Local Goverment if you ask me!! Why should the "Jobs for Life lot" Do whatever they wish???????
Shocking!!!!!!!Sack the lot of them!!!!!!
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Yachydda,

Wrexham 03/11/2008 16:36:05
lumberjill:

Here Here!!

Humans seem to think more of what the planet OWES them rather than what we OWE the planet.

Greed comes before everything else,Erddig estate will survive regardless of supposedly needing more funds for its upkeep.
Old Yorkie gave the land to the national trust on the understanding it would be kept and none of it was to be sold...the national trust are now in breach of that agreement.
they have no respect for him or his gift to the people via themselves.
As for The council leader, hes had a vote of no confidence from Rhostyllen community already, may be he should now re-consider his untenable possition as leader of Wrexham council.
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taffie5,

wrexham 03/11/2008 17:05:21
i think any one who is a member of the national trust should not renew their member ships. hit them where it hurts to let them know people do not want this to happen.
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Tara,

Rhostyllen 03/11/2008 17:27:00
Like I said before, THE NATIONAL TRUST are even bigger HYPOCRITES now. An organisation that people used to have respect for. Now ?, The big wigs should hold there head down in shame, a total disgrace for what they are supposed to stand for and the cheek of it is they get paid for what they do and they don t have to suffer from the consequences either.
A charity that robs people of their livelihood,their homes,and land left for people to enjoy.
There are far more deserving genuine charities out there that deserve being called a charity.
How much more money and members will you loose now National Distrust ?
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Ray Harper,

Wrexham 03/11/2008 17:31:12
I thought I was reading an article from the early 70's when trade union members used to vote against motions that were unsound or reckless and some block vote baron would wade in to get the membership in order.
We all know were that led and the secret ballot had to become law in order to make democracy a true voice of the people.
I believe in democracy but this seems to be no more than a sham, a case of no matter what the membership feel, this is going through anyway, makes you wonder why a minority are so deetermined?
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